diff --git a/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless7/conformer.py b/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless7/conformer.py
index 90acc99f7..565990708 100644
--- a/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless7/conformer.py
+++ b/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless7/conformer.py
@@ -870,8 +870,6 @@ class RelPositionMultiheadAttention(nn.Module):
         self.copy_pos_query = Identity()
         self.copy_query = Identity()
 
-        self.in_balancer = ActivationBalancer(3 * attention_dim,
-                                              channel_dim=-1, max_abs=5.0)
         self.out_proj = ScaledLinear(
             attention_dim // 2, embed_dim, bias=True, initial_scale=0.05
         )
@@ -931,7 +929,7 @@ class RelPositionMultiheadAttention(nn.Module):
                  and S is the sequence length.
         """
         x, weights = self.multi_head_attention_forward(
-            self.in_balancer(self.in_proj(x)),
+            self.in_proj(x),
             self.linear_pos(pos_emb),
             self.attention_dim,
             self.num_heads,
@@ -1117,7 +1115,8 @@ class RelPositionMultiheadAttention(nn.Module):
             attn_output_weights = random_clamp(attn_output_weights,
                                                min=-attn_weights_max,
                                                max=attn_weights_max,
-                                               prob=0.5)
+                                               prob=0.5,
+                                               reflect=0.1)
 
         # attn_output_weights: (batch, head, time1, time2)
 
diff --git a/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless7/model.py b/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless7/model.py
index ee88a9159..0c1bd9551 100644
--- a/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless7/model.py
+++ b/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless7/model.py
@@ -19,10 +19,12 @@ import k2
 import torch
 import torch.nn as nn
 from encoder_interface import EncoderInterface
+from scaling import random_clamp
 
 from icefall.utils import add_sos
 
 
+
 class Transducer(nn.Module):
     """It implements https://arxiv.org/pdf/1211.3711.pdf
     "Sequence Transduction with Recurrent Neural Networks"
@@ -140,6 +142,12 @@ class Transducer(nn.Module):
         lm = self.simple_lm_proj(decoder_out)
         am = self.simple_am_proj(encoder_out)
 
+        if self.training:
+            lm = random_clamp(lm, min=-8.0, max=2.0, prob=0.5,
+                              reflect=0.1)
+            am = random_clamp(am, min=-5.0, max=5.0, prob=0.5,
+                              reflect=0.1)
+
         with torch.cuda.amp.autocast(enabled=False):
             simple_loss, (px_grad, py_grad) = k2.rnnt_loss_smoothed(
                 lm=lm.float(),
@@ -175,6 +183,10 @@ class Transducer(nn.Module):
         # prior to do_rnnt_pruning (this is an optimization for speed).
         logits = self.joiner(am_pruned, lm_pruned, project_input=False)
 
+        if self.training:
+            logits = random_clamp(logits, -8.0, 2.0, prob=0.5,
+                                  reflect=0.1)
+
         with torch.cuda.amp.autocast(enabled=False):
             pruned_loss = k2.rnnt_loss_pruned(
                 logits=logits.float(),
diff --git a/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless7/scaling.py b/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless7/scaling.py
index d8a380b9d..fed553183 100644
--- a/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless7/scaling.py
+++ b/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless7/scaling.py
@@ -165,24 +165,34 @@ class RandomClampFunction(torch.autograd.Function):
             x: Tensor,
             min: Optional[float],
             max: Optional[float],
-            prob: float) -> Tensor:
+            prob: float,
+            reflect: float) -> Tensor:
         x_clamped = torch.clamp(x, min=min, max=max)
         mask = torch.rand_like(x) < prob
         ans = torch.where(mask, x_clamped, x)
         if x.requires_grad:
             ctx.save_for_backward(ans == x)
+            ctx.reflect = reflect
+        if reflect != 0.0:
+            ans = ans * (1.0 + reflect) - (x * reflect)
+
         return ans
 
     @staticmethod
-    def backward(ctx, ans_grad: Tensor) -> Tuple[Tensor, None, None, None]:
+    def backward(ctx, ans_grad: Tensor) -> Tuple[Tensor, None, None, None, None]:
         is_same, = ctx.saved_tensors
-        return ans_grad * is_same.to(ans_grad.dtype), None, None, None
+        x_grad = ans_grad * is_same.to(ans_grad.dtype)
+        reflect = ctx.reflect
+        if reflect !=  0.0:
+            x_grad = x_grad * (1.0 + reflect) - (ans_grad * reflect)
+        return ans_grad * is_same.to(ans_grad.dtype), None, None, None, None
 
 def random_clamp(x: Tensor,
                  min: Optional[float] = None,
                  max: Optional[float] = None,
-                 prob: float = 0.5):
-    return RandomClampFunction.apply(x, min, max, prob)
+                 prob: float = 0.5,
+                 reflect: float = 0.0):
+    return RandomClampFunction.apply(x, min, max, prob, reflect)
 
 
 def random_cast_to_half(x: Tensor,