diff --git a/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless2/model.py b/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless2/model.py
index 2434fd41d..452102d21 100644
--- a/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless2/model.py
+++ b/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless2/model.py
@@ -78,6 +78,7 @@ class Transducer(nn.Module):
         am_scale: float = 0.0,
         lm_scale: float = 0.0,
         warmup: float = 1.0,
+        reduction: str = "sum",
     ) -> torch.Tensor:
         """
         Args:
@@ -101,6 +102,10 @@ class Transducer(nn.Module):
           warmup:
             A value warmup >= 0 that determines which modules are active, values
             warmup > 1 "are fully warmed up" and all modules will be active.
+          reduction:
+            "sum" to sum the losses over all utterances in the batch.
+            "none" to return the loss in a 1-D tensor for each utterance
+            in the batch.
         Returns:
           Return the transducer loss.
 
@@ -110,6 +115,7 @@ class Transducer(nn.Module):
               lm_scale * lm_probs + am_scale * am_probs +
               (1-lm_scale-am_scale) * combined_probs
         """
+        assert reduction in ("sum", "none"), reduction
         assert x.ndim == 3, x.shape
         assert x_lens.ndim == 1, x_lens.shape
         assert y.num_axes == 2, y.num_axes
@@ -155,7 +161,7 @@ class Transducer(nn.Module):
                 lm_only_scale=lm_scale,
                 am_only_scale=am_scale,
                 boundary=boundary,
-                reduction="sum",
+                reduction=reduction,
                 return_grad=True,
             )
 
@@ -188,7 +194,7 @@ class Transducer(nn.Module):
                 ranges=ranges,
                 termination_symbol=blank_id,
                 boundary=boundary,
-                reduction="sum",
+                reduction=reduction,
             )
 
         return (simple_loss, pruned_loss)
diff --git a/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless5/train.py b/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless5/train.py
index 3bfe22155..b7ef288c6 100755
--- a/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless5/train.py
+++ b/egs/librispeech/ASR/pruned_transducer_stateless5/train.py
@@ -655,7 +655,35 @@ def compute_loss(
             am_scale=params.am_scale,
             lm_scale=params.lm_scale,
             warmup=warmup,
+            reduction="none",
         )
+        simple_loss_is_finite = torch.isfinite(simple_loss)
+        pruned_loss_is_finite = torch.isfinite(pruned_loss)
+        is_finite = simple_loss_is_finite & pruned_loss_is_finite
+        if not torch.all(is_finite):
+            logging.info(
+                "Not all losses are finite!\n"
+                f"simple_loss: {simple_loss}\n"
+                f"pruned_loss: {pruned_loss}"
+            )
+            display_and_save_batch(batch, params=params, sp=sp)
+            simple_loss = simple_loss[simple_loss_is_finite]
+            pruned_loss = pruned_loss[pruned_loss_is_finite]
+
+            # If the batch contains more than 10 utterance AND
+            # if either all simple_loss or pruned_loss is inf or nan,
+            # we stop the training process by raising an exception
+            if feature.size(0) >= 10:
+                if torch.all(~simple_loss_is_finite) or torch.all(
+                    ~pruned_loss_is_finite
+                ):
+                    raise ValueError(
+                        "There are too many utterances in this batch "
+                        "leading to inf or nan losses."
+                    )
+
+        simple_loss = simple_loss.sum()
+        pruned_loss = pruned_loss.sum()
         # after the main warmup step, we keep pruned_loss_scale small
         # for the same amount of time (model_warm_step), to avoid
         # overwhelming the simple_loss and causing it to diverge,
@@ -675,6 +703,10 @@ def compute_loss(
     info = MetricsTracker()
     with warnings.catch_warnings():
         warnings.simplefilter("ignore")
+        # info["frames"] is an approximate number for two reasons:
+        # (1) The acutal subsampling factor is ((lens - 1) // 2 - 1) // 2
+        # (2) If some utterances in the batch lead to inf/nan loss, they
+        #     are filtered out.
         info["frames"] = (
             (feature_lens // params.subsampling_factor).sum().item()
         )